Why Every True Believer is a Dispensationalist

Please note that I am not arguing that only self-identified dispensationalists are the only true believers. What I am saying is that even those who say they despise and reject dispensationalism are, in fact, dispensationalists whether they like it or not. This is assuming they actually believe in redemption by grace alone through faith alone.

In the comments section at a news/commentary site, an atheist (who was openly politically conservative and MAGA, not just some left wing troublemaker) started posting scriptures. He was holding Christians to their stated belief that all the Bible is for them. Here is one passage he chose:

As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. 

-Lev 25:44-46a

I added verse 46a to highlight that this was a "forever" statute and unless you understand what "forever" means in scripture, you will have to deal with all the "forever" passages. But that's another topic for another time. And he could have picked verses even more troublesome for the "church = Israel" believer.

One believer unbelievably responded that this verse sounded like Islam not Christianity. Well, thanks for falling into his trap, my friend. 

“You shall [Thou shalt] have a place outside the camp, and you shall go out to it. And you shall have a trowel with your tools, and when you sit down outside, you shall dig a hole with it and turn back and cover up your excrement. Because the Lord your God walks in the midst of your camp, to deliver you and to give up your enemies before you, therefore your camp must be holy, so that he may not see anything indecent among you and turn away from you. 

-Deuteronomy 23:12-14

This one is also a Bible command ("You SHALL..."). Honestly, there are far more extreme examples from the Law the atheist could have chosen, but he settled for this one. Anyway, the simple explanation is that, like the Law (including the 10 commandments), these commands are for Israel and they are part of a specific, earthly covenant. 

Israel's covenant is an earthly compact which involves a specific earthly hope. This and other "commands" were not given to Adam, Abel, Seth, Methuselah, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, etc. The very foundation of dispensationalism (in general) is that while all scripture is FOR, it's not all TO us. It's not even all FOR Israel in what we call the "Old Testament."

To help illustrate this fact, let is look at a rather obvious "bible command" (a very specific one at that) that can easily be see to have limited application. It applies neither to us today nor ever to Israel (despite being part of the Pentateuch).

Make an ark of cypress wood for yourself. Make rooms in the ark, and cover it inside and out with pitch. And this is how you must make it: The length of the ark will be three hundred cubits, the width of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits

-Genesis 6:14-15

No Christian sect or seminary teaches this is for all believers of all ages and applicable in our day. But we must not miss that there are THREE reasons for this.

1. God is clearly speaking directly to Noah (subject of the command)
2. There is no flood coming (condition for the command)
3. The earth is being cleansed (the focus of God's plan and action)

The same concept for certain commands works with promises such as the specific promise to the twelve in Matthew 18:28 that the twelve will sit on twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel in the Kingdom (regeneration). Clearly spoken to them. There are not an unending number of thrones. "Twelve" is not some euphemism for "untold millions." The land and the nation of Israel in her promised earthly kingdom is in sight (the future regeneration).

Jesus said to them, “Truly I say to you, in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

This is obviously in the gospel accounts. This promise is yet future to our age today. We cannot somehow dismiss its specificity or substitute some sort of "spiritual" thrones, tribes, or Kingdom. The only way to understand the commands to Noah and the promises in the gospels to the chosen apostles is to understand them in the context of the plan in sight.  

Note what we are told in John 15:16 (which is not some Calvinistic choosing of all believers of all ages, but a specific choosing of the twelve). And despite the twelve being "chosen" by Christ himself, Judas will lose his position as elder (his office) and as a future ruler in Israel despite being chosen. How does this fit "election" as it is commonly taught? And do we really believe that the Lord will do whatever any believer asks merely if he asks in His name?

You did not choose Me, but I chose you, and appointed you, that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that the Father may give you whatever you ask Him in My name. 

-John 15:16

Jesus answered them, “Have I not chosen you, the twelve, and yet one of you is a devil?” He spoke of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon. For it was he who would betray Him, being one of the twelve. 

-John 6:70-71

“Brothers, this Scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit previously spoke by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who became the guide to those who seized Jesus... “For it is written in the Book of Psalms,

‘Let his habitation become desolate,
and let no one live in it,

and,

‘Let another take his office.

-Acts 1:16, 20

The objection might be raised that the Lord Judas was a deceiver. Yet that foreknowledge does not negate that he was chosen nor that he has all the same gifts the others had and was to be treated the same as all the chosen.

These twelve Jesus sent out, and commanded them, saying, “Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter any city of the Samaritans. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. As you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, and cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. “Provide neither gold nor silver nor copper for your purses, nor bag for your journey, nor two tunics, nor shoes, nor even staffs. For the workman is worthy of his keep. “In whatever city or town you enter, inquire in it who is worthy. And live there until you leave. When you come into a house, greet it. If the house is worthy, let your peace come upon it. But if it is not worthy, let your peace return to you. Whoever will not receive you, nor hear your words, when you depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Truly I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah on the Day of Judgment than for that town.

-Matthew 10:5-15

Israel had commands on how to build and move the tabernacle. Then Israel had commands on how to build the temple, etc. The commands concerning the tabernacle were put aside in light of the temple. Then Israel lived without a temple again when the first temple was destroyed. Then they built another temple, etc. Adam, Abraham, etc. had no tabernacle or temple, etc. So, even within ages "forever" commands and "You shall" commands changed.

Now, I could reference many more verses that nobody (well, almost nobody) is teaching that we should be obeying merely because "it's a Bible command!" or that the statute is said to be "forever."

The atheist in our account did not limit himself to random verses in the Old Testament. He turned to John 14 and quoted a verse similar to what we have seen in John 15.

Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it. 

-John 14:13-14

For this one (John 14), the atheist asked the Christians why they're not at hospitals healing kids. We could add additional scriptures to this. Isn't this a promise made by the Lord Jesus to all his followers as some claim? This promise is found in John 14, 15, and 16. Yet those who claim the earthly ministry of the Lord to Israel and  the promises to the twelve for themselves fail to claim all the commands and neither do they claim all the promises. They pick and choose what they like as they accuse those of us who are labeled "ultra-dispensationalists" as the ones denying all the Word of God.

They choose being chosen for themselves, but ignore the fact that God does not do everything they ask in His name. The obvious "failure" of this promise to work essentially always in this age is explained away by such trite excuses that none of the billions of asks are actually "in His name." 

We look at similar "red letter" words of our Lord (again, the horrible practice of printers separating out the words spoken by the Lord Jesus by printing them in red). Why are they not in children's hospitals laying hands on the sick? We could also quote James 5:14 (an epistle specifically addressed to "the twelve tribes scattered abroad") along these lines.

And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

-Mark 16:17-18

Is anyone sick among you? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. 

-James 5:14

Matthew 10 states that the sent one will not only heal the sick, but raise the dead. 

And proclaim as you go, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. 

-Matt 10:7-8

The "you" here is again specific to the twelve as are the Lord's words in John 14-16.

We must also distinguish what "the kingdom of heaven" and "the gospel of the kingdom" are in Matthew (as opposed to the Gospel of Grace, etc.) and the future position of the chosen twelve. If we do not we are left with this "bible command" unanswered today. Now, the obvious objection is that he is clearly speaking to the twelve. Well, yes, but very few will apply that to the other commands and promises given only to the twelve.

To argue this is to acknowledge that not all the Bible (even the gospels) is TO us. We cannot claim all the commands or promises before the Law was given, in the Law itself, in the earthly ministry of the Lord, or in the Acts and Acts-age epistles. 

A personal favorite "command" of the Lord Jesus (in red letters):

“Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. 

-Luke 12:33-34

The generally Leftist, progressive "red letter Christians" seem to ignore that one. The other ones they conveniently ignore are the Lord's comments on gentiles in Matthew 10 and Matthew 15. The Lord clearly excludes gentiles from the preaching of the Kingdom in both chapters and agrees that gentiles are "little dogs" while Israel are the "children" and their "masters" in the latter. He clearly states he was sent ONLY to Israel and rejects the cries of a gentile who tries to call him "Son of David." 

Can we imagine that when the Lord Jesus was preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom in Matthew 4 and 9 that he was preaching salvation by grace through faith in his death, burial, and resurrection? When he tells his disciples (whom he sent out in Matthew 10 to preach to Jews only) that he must go to Jerusalem, not only do they not believe him, Peter says it shall not be so! 

The Gospel of the Kingdom is not the gospel we preach to all men today.

And we don't have the space to get into the Acts and Acts epistles.

It is my contention that many people either (a) will not consider the faith or (b) that some professed believers will even leave the faith because they do not know what to do with all the commands and all the promises of scripture. They cannot possibly obey all the commands and they do not see the fruition of all the promises. 

They fail to "rightly divide the Word of Truth" (2 Tim 2:15) or "compare the things that differ" (Phil 1:10). Sadly, this is because the young believer is not taught how to rightly divide. He is often told that if he doubts a promise, God has rejected him. For some that leads to an enslavement to fear for others they recognize the almost universality of that state and determine the Bible is a lie.

Does anyone dare quote Jeremiah 29:11 (many a professed believer's "life verse") to those parents in Texas who lost their precious little girls in the recent flood? I don't know if any has done this, but that verse is plastered on many a wall in many a church and in many youth retreat centers. We ask again, how many have it as his/her "life verse"?

For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope.

Here it is in contemporary English:

I will bless you with a future filled with hope—a future of success, not of suffering.

Do you claim this for your life today, dear friend?

It is the height of cruelty to tell every believer today this future promise to national Israel is theirs to claim now. Again, such wrong division will lead unbelievers to mock God and the faith and cause some believers to fall away. 

And even when some believers, even the most hardcore dispensationalist-mocking believers, come to these scriptures they do not claim all the promises and certainly not all the commands. This makes them dispensationalists whether they like it or not. Unfortunately, having such disgust for the word, they do their best to try and wrest what they can from scripture. The convenient parts anyway.

As the original translators of the King James Bible have done in their chapter headings, many Christians take scripture and argue "cursings for Israel" and "blessings for the Church" to excuse the obvious difficulties in the text. Some use it as an excuse for their anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism is another excuse to hate dispensationalism for them. They cannot stomach that God will fulfill his earthly promises to an earthly people (the true offspring of Abraham).

For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brothers, my kinsmen by race, who are [still] Israelites, to whom belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants [plural, old and new], the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises, to whom belong the patriarchs, and from whom, according to the flesh, is Christ, who is over all, God forever blessed. Amen. 

-Romans 9:3-5

 

Israel was not put aside at the cross. They were very much in the forefront to the end of the Acts age and they will be again when God turns his attention back to his earthly plan. 

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Israel in the Present Age

Living in the Great Parenthesis of our Age

Believers and Antisemitism Because of Wrong Division

Israel According to the Flesh

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God's Plan for Israel

The Kingdom of God, God's Plan for the Earth

Pop Culture (South Park) Unwittingly Makes the Case for Dispensationalism

The Christ-mockers at South Park have decided to make a great case for Dispensationalism in a recent episode.  In the episode, they have the character 'Cartman' as a Charlie Kirk (TPUSA) figure debating on a college campus. At one point he has Cartman quoting from the Law:  

“Leviticus 3:17 says it shall be a perpetual statute for your generations throughout all your dwellings.”

Here is the verse in full:

As a continual [perpetual] statute for your generations in all your settlements, you shall not eat any fat or any blood.

This is a perpetual statute for Israel. The text is plain. The Lord is clear It is also a command for gentiles living among Israel (while remaining separate and distinct from Israel) which is placed upon the gentiles believers in the Acts (Acts 15, Acts 21). Those claiming that they are either some "New Israel" or that they are an "Acts" church claim these clearly taught instructions (commands)? Some will call themselves "cessationists" to try and skirt the latter, but the commands in Acts 15 and 21 are not connected to any spiritual gifts, they are, in fact, commands for gentile believers living in Israel. 

Even in that age, certain practices and commands were limited to the land and distinctions we made between Jewish believers and Gentile believers. Israel did not somehow cease to be on Pentecost. But we take that matter up elsewhere.

The word translated "perpetual" in Leviticus 3:17 is עֹלָם (ʻôwlâm). 

Let us briefly look at how the Bible dictionaries describe the word.

Usage: alway(-s), ancient (time), any more, continuance, eternal, (for, (n-)) ever(-lasting, -more, of old), lasting, long (time), (of) old (time), perpetual, at any time, (beginning of the) world (without end). 

[Strong's]

long duration, antiquity, futurity, for ever, ever, everlasting, evermore, perpetual, old, ancient, worldancient time, long time (of past)
(of future)for ever, always
continuous existence, perpetual
everlasting, indefinite or unending future, eternity 

[Brown-Driver-Briggs]

If the argument is that the Old Covenant was replaced by the New Covenant, then even in that scenario (which I do not hold as I believe the NC is yet future), a change in God's commandments and direction must be recognized. Even the most dispensationalist-hating preterist or Calvinist must recognize that we no longer keep this "perpetual" statute (or other "perpetual" statutes). 

The concept of "perpetual" promises or promises and commands stated as perpetuating "throughout your generations," must be rightly divided (cp. 2 Tim 2:15) and understood as connected to a people, a land, and dispensational relationships. The land promised to Abraham and his descendants is promised "throughout your generations" long before the law. 

I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you.

 

-Genesis 17:7

How many will today run to Galatians today to claim he is of "Abraham's seed" (Gal 3:29)? Yet these same have no interest in the promises ("everlasting covenant") to Abraham's seed regarding the promised land.

Whether it be the Passover before the Law is given or in the pages of the Law itself, Israel has many things that they are promised or commanded to perform "throughout [their] generations." Those dismissing dispensational and right division truths while claiming the promises of Abraham as some sort of "New Israel" pick and choose what they want from the Law and even from the New Covenant itself (as revealed in Jeremiah 31). 

This day shall be a memorial to you, and you shall keep it as a feast to the Lord. Throughout your generations you shall keep it a feast by an eternal ordinance.

-Exodus 12:14

Once a year he must make atonement on it throughout your generations. It is most holy to the Lord.

-Exodus 30:10 

There are many such statements. And let us not miss that the Law addresses gentiles living among Israel. We note that these laws are not for gentiles everywhere, but those living peacefully among Israel. There is no place for such a company today if the "church" is somehow a "New Israel." Regardless, the statute is stated as being enforced "throughout your generations." These must bring an offering to the Lord. 

A foreigner who lives with you, or who resides among you throughout your generations, and would present a fire offering, a pleasing aroma to the Lord, shall do as you do.

-Numbers 15:14 

Who would this company be? Does God ask a sacrifice from unbelievers in the "church"?

All the males among the children of Aaron shall eat of it. It shall be a perpetual statute in your generations concerning the food offerings of the Lord made by fire. Everyone who touches them shall become holy.

 -Leviticus 6:18

We could quote many similar "perpetual" statutes. This is why (among other truths) we do not look to the Law (including the Ten Commandments) or to the promises to Abraham as a guide for the current age or for the Body of Christ. If we do, we will find ourselves slicing up the Law and even the Ten Commandments) opening God's word to mockery and causing many to question their own faith.

So the anti-dispensationalist must either agree that "perpetual" is time or people or condition limited OR they must agree that God recognizes different ages and different hopes for different peoples in different ages. In either case, to one degree or another, despite their protestations (and often their mockery), they are dispensationalists. That is, they recognize God has different plans, different promises, and different hopes for different people in different ages.

We could further point to other pre-Abraham figures (Adam, Abel, Noah, etc.) and recognize their hopes (etc.) also have nothing to do with Abraham or Israel or the land or the Law. 

Rifts in Christendom are created as each "scholar" decides what does and does not apply from the Law for today. People then submit their minds and will to that "authority" (this is commanded in Catholicism regarding both bishops and the Pope).  Slicing and dicing the Law, applying bits and pieces (only parts) to everybody everywhere at any time destroys more faith and enslaves more professed believers almost as much as professed Christians pretending all the Lord's ministry in the gospels is for us does.

Still waiting for the “red letter” Christians to sell everything they have and to start raising the dead. And they also need to start limiting their ministries to Israel only, in the land of Israel only as the Lord Jesus commanded in the red letters..

Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom. Sell all that you have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that fail not, where no thief approaches, neither moth corrupts,

-Luke 12:32-33

These twelve Jesus sent out, and commanded them, saying, “Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter any city of the Samaritans. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. As you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, and cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.

-Matthew 10:5-8

When we strive to "rightly divide the Word of Truth" and "compare the things that differ," we will start to understand God's plan for our own age. The writers at South Park mock scripture by mocking those who claim all the Bible for themselves and all the Bible as a guide for all men in all ages. 

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• More Misrepresentations of Ultradispensationalism
• Matthew Henry's New Covenant Errors
• Old and New Covenants Veil the Truth of Grace
• Romans 9 and the Promises to Israel
• Who is a Jew - Part 3

S4 Ep3 Rightly Dividing Pentecost and the New Covenant

S1 Ep 29 The New Covenant Is Not Yet Here and It's For Israel, Not The Body

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Examining 2 Timothy 4:22 and the Prayer for Your Spirit

Growing up in the Roman Catholic Church, I was very familiar with the response "and also with you" to the priest's statement, "peace be with you." Since I've been gone they have changed the response to "and with your spirit." I am assuming this is to line up with 2 Timothy 4:22.

The Lord Jesus Christ be with thy spirit. Grace be with you. Amen.

-2 Tim 4:22 (Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition)


The Lord Jesus Christ be with thy spirit. Grace be with you. Amen.

-2 Tim 4:22 (KJV)

Whereas I would generally be pleased that anything seeks to move toward an accurate reflection of the Word of God, there are limits. First, of course, is context. Secondly how it is being applied. As we are well familiar from the Lord's own temptation, Satan can quote scripture for his own purposes.

Be that as it may, we don't think there can be much to fault here. But allow me to suggest an issue with the use of the phrase in their rituals as well as in most Bible translations (including those based on the Textus Receptus such as the KJV above).

We have examined the word "spirit" before. It is a word that has a greater breadth and depth than we usually assign to it. Angels are "ministering spirits" (Hebrews 1:14) to believing Israel. In terms of our own "spirit" we look to the Lord who "gave up the spirit" on the cross and then died. This phrase is also used of the wicked. Ananias "gave up the spirit" (Acts 5:5) after lying to God (5:4) and Herod "gave up the spirit" (Acts 12:23) after the people cried out that he spoke like a god. 

Your spirit is your breath of life from God.

In Genesis 2:7, we read, "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being." This is the wording used in almost every English translation. The Hebrew word here is "neshamah" and means "breath [that is] life." 

Brown-Driver-Briggs' Definition

1. breath, spirit/breath (of God)
2. breath (of man)
3. every breathing thing
4. spirit (of man)

The idea is God-breathed life. Adam was formed of the dust, At that point he was a "soul," but it was not until God breathed life into him that he became a "living being" (KJV) or a "living soul" (Wtycliff) or a "living creature" (Young's Literal). The word translated "soul" in most translations is the Hebrew word "nephesh" which does speak of an individual or a creature (as it were). 

The Lord Jesus Christ is not a triune being on his own. The Lord was crucified, gave up his "spirit/life," bowed his head in death. His "body" was in the tomb ("heart of the earth" Matt 12:40) for three days and nights as his "soul" was in Hades, the state of the believing dead awaiting resurrection (1 Cor 15). 

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. 

-Matthew 12:40


Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that of the fruit of his body, according to the flesh, He would raise up the Christ to sit on his throne, he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption. This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all witnesses. 

-Acts 2:30-32

Whereas Adam was a soul before he had spirit (life), the Lord was a soul after he gave up the spirit and died on the cross. Deceased believers today are said to be in Hades (state of the believing dead) awaiting their resurrection bodies.  This is the crux and final argument of Paul's chapter on the hope of resurrection for believers (1 Cor 15). There is no immortality or incorruption (lack of decay) until we experience resurrection. Paul's only use of Hades (sadly rendered "hell" in some translations) in his epistles is here and the context is believers. 

Adam BECAME a "living soul," the Lord was a "soul" who died.

So what was Paul saying in 2 Timothy 4:22? I think we get the best rendering in the Cotemporary English Version.

Do your best to come before winter. Eubulus, Pudens, Linus, and Claudia send you their greetings, and so do the rest of the Lord's followers. I pray that the Lord will bless your life and will be kind to you.

-2 Tim 4:21-22 (CEV)

Paul is praying that the Lord, in an evident way, be with these believers in their daily lives as He was in Paul's life. There is nothing mystical or religious here. As a side note, the "Linus" in verse 21 is most likely an elder in Rome that is presumed to be Peter's successor. That would be highly unlikely for multiple reasons, but simply in basic context, Paul is superior to Linus in authority. But that's another matter for another time perhaps.

If the Catholic liturgical use is from 2 Timothy 4:22, while not a horrible use, it does not fully capture the breadth of the term or the understanding of the verse rightly divided (interpreted). If one says "peace be with you" it is not wrong to respond, "and with your spirit/life," but the greater sense of the verse is that we are praying the Lord will be a tangible blessing (presence) in the life of the believer. We must take the mysticism out of our interpretations.

Tom Horn - More on the Grifting False Prophet

And after publishing scare stories about YR4 just last week, NASA updated the odds of a collision to .001% today. 

I won't go into why I lean toward all these "asteroid scares" being scams, but neither Apophis nor YR4 are not going to hit the earth. The "scientists" who ran with the scare have backed off and have distanced themselves from the fearmongering. Unfortunately,  Tom Horn ran with the original scare tactics and supposedly had his vision before the correction. Now that he is passed on, we're left with his book on the subject. 

I don't recall Horn claiming a "prophetic dream" in any of his previous grifts, but in any case, this final grift is built upon the sinking sand of his claim of such a dream in regard to the asteroid in question. We previously looked at Tom Horn's false and ever evolving "prophecies" HERE

After a long career of such false prophecies, I can't believe Gary Stearman fell for Horn's "I had a prophetic dream!" bit. I know a lot of people like Tom Horn, but he has been wrong... a lot. And when you claim your prophecies are from the Lord (although he always pulls up just short of claiming direct revelation) and they don't come to pass... well, we know... you should be dismissed as a false prophet (under the Law he would be stoned to death).

I expect Sid Roth to try and grift off of false prophecies (he's made a career of it), but Horn going on that nonsense garbage of a show speaks as much to his integrity as it does of Roth's. That is, both seem to bow down to the god of mammon over any desire to be true to the Word of God. If it is not yet evident, I have very little patience for people claiming direct revelation from God, thus calling Paul a liar. Revelation for this age ended with Paul. He "filled up" the Word of God. There are many prophecies yet to be fulfilled, but these are already given to man (for Israel, really) in the prophets, through the Lord's earthly ministry, and in the epistles. 

Sid Roth is bad enough, but Horn didn't stop there. He took the grift to Jim Bakker's show.

Tom Horn implies here that "Holy Communion" is the actual blood of Christ. he plays to any audience that will make him a buck and give him screen time.. Spoiler, Tom: Catholic laity rarely, if ever, actually drink the wine. The priest does, but the laity only get the bread. Spoiler 2: neither of the "elements" is the actual body or blood of the Lord. 

Note Horn's modus operandi, he never actually says anything. Always with the question mark. "Could this mean the AC will...?" "Could in be...?" "Are we seeing..?" This is how he gets out of being held responsible for his claims. But in doing so, he is indirectly blaming God for his false prophecies when he is proven wrong.

One of the questions my friend and I use when we see people who seem to be living a rather unproductive life... "how do you eat?"  That is, where are you getting the money to survive? Tom kept writing books that actually said nothing. That's how he eats. They're all speculative to give him an out. He uses Coronavirus as precursor for what Apophis is supposed to bring (thus assuming it is real). 

He was very wrong in his Apollyon 2012 book. Then he just kept moving the goalposts. We covered some of this in our previous post on Horn.

Remember in the Bible when Daniel set up a collection box before anyone could read his prophecies? The "prophet" who sells his prophecies should be shunned and dismissed. More "secrets" from God that Tom was selling for a quick buck. He speaks in the name of God with no sense of fear. 

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• What the “People of the Name” covenant is
• AND MUCH MORE!

I'm still recovering from the Tribulation that started in 2012. These is so much blasphemy in just those bullet points from Horn and his publishers. Again, I expect men like Sid Roth and Jim Bakker to hitch their wagons to Horn's grift, I'm just very disappointed when men like Gary Stearman fall for it. It casts a dark shadow on everything else he seeks to teach. 

The only big "prophetic" names that I think are worse than Horn are Paul Begley and Steve Quayle. These men are blots on the ministry of Paul and on the name of Christ. 

When we understand the biblical principles of "Right Division," we quickly spot these (alleged) charlatans. But as I look around and see professed believers grabbing any verse from anywhere in scripture, fawning over men and women who claim to revelations greater than Paul's, and men and women taking upon themselves titles that God did not grant them, I realize the grift will continue until the epiphenea of the Lord and then his final revelation to Israel.  

Related posts:

• Tom Horn's "Prophecies"
• Christmas is About Israel
• What is Our Hope Today - Part 2

My Right Division Podcast:

• Video Playlist
• Audio Version

Another Look at the Future of Israel - Part 1

I found the following 1918 entry in The Berean Expositor by Charles Welch to be rather interesting:

We believe that one of the results of the taking of Jerusalem from the Turk, will be a great return of the Jews to Palestine.

Rather prescient. But then again, all Mr. Welch was doing was taking Bible prophecy as literal, just as Daniel took Jeremiah literally (Dan 9:2) and knew that Israel's captivity in Babylon would be limited to 70 years (Jer 29:10). Mr. Welch was not alone in his expectation. Over the history of the true church, there has always been some expectation of Israel's regathering. This expectation gained prominence in the 19th century and the early 20th century because of men like Darby, Kelly, Gaebelein, Bullinger, Anderson and other dispensationalists.

No people, in the history of the world, have been removed from their land, scattered to all corners of the globe, maintained their identity, and returned two thousand years later to reform their nation as the Jewish people have.

As we look at the great wars facing Israel (outlined in Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38 & 39 as well elsewhere among the prophets), we see that the nations noted and the conditions of that future day are lining up with what we see in our day. The great regathering of Israel, assumed by Mr, Welch and others many years before it would happen, has blossomed before our eyes (and Jews continue to flock to Israel daily). We may very well see the expected wars break out before our eyes as well.


As Daniel read the signs of the times and as the Lord Jesus called on those in his days to read the signs of the times, let us carefully consider the world around us in light of scripture as they sit today at this writing.


Israel Is Not in the Land in Faith

Although I support Israel, and believe that Christians should do the same, we cannot deny Israel's continued rejection of God as a nation. Surely Israel is in the land in unbelief. In general, it is a very carnal nation with little concern for God. But within her is a remnant that God will use in the age to come to evangelize the world (in the name of her Messiah, the Lord Jesus Christ, the only name by which any are rescued). Acts 4:12

Two women are contrasted in the Revelation. One a Bride, the other a Harlot. The figure of an unfaithful wife is constantly used in the O.T. to describe Israel in apostacy.

Mr. Welch (quoted above) sees believing (overcoming) Israel as the Bride contrasted with harlot Israel as the Scarlet Woman. Not all Israel is Israel (Rom 9:6). In the near future, all true Israel will be rescued (delivered) when Christ finally turns all ungodliness away from Israel (Rom 11:26-27; Is 59:20-21) and destroys her enemies.

As the Revelation is the future of story of Israel, his words should be considered soberly. Believing Israel is destined for a great future, yet there are some terrible times ahead before she realizes those promises.


Israel's Future is Not the Future of The Body

In Part 2, we will look at Israel's deliverance and how Christians who supposedly reject Replacement Theology (the idea that "the church" has replaced Israel in God's plan) blindly teach that the current church has replaced Israel in the New Covenant! As we have noted in other studies, the New Covenant is for Israel and is not what we are under in the current age (Jeremiah 31, Hebrews 8, etc.).

I referenced Romans 11 in the last section. To whet our appetite, I will quote it here and ask the reader to note the future nature of the promise and the subject of the promise:

The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins.

The Lord WILL (future) take away ungodliness from JACOB (Israel, not the Body of Christ). Why? Because the New covenant (like the old, again read: Jeremiah 31, Hebrews 8) is with THEM. He will, at that time, take away THEIR sins. Paul is quoting from the prophecy of Isaiah which continues:

“As for Me,” says the Lord, “this is My covenant with them: My Spirit who is upon you, and My words which I have put in your mouth, shall not depart from your mouth, nor from the mouth of your descendants, nor from the mouth of your descendants’ descendants,” says the Lord, “from this time and forevermore.”

Isaiah 59 is clearly a prophecy for Israel. Paul's use of it, long after the cross, tells us that it has not yet been fulfilled. The pronouns refer to ISRAEL, back in the land, in a future age. We will see in Jeremiah and Hebrews how the New Covenant is for a future, fully restored, believing israel and not for the The Body of Christ.



Just as the Old Covenant was never given to me, neither is the new.

Things to Consider:

• Israel is back in the land as prophesied (although in unbelief)
• Israel is separate from The Body
• Israel is yet to play a key role in the plan of God
• The New Covenant is not yet in effect
• The New Covenant is not for The Body, it is for a redeemed Israel

Checking on the False Prophets (Tom Horn's Prophecies)

The late Tom Horn was another "prophet" who kept moving his goalposts. Now, I'm not opposed to some speculation on a biblical timeline for the events of the Revelation (I've written a couple of posts on it here myself). But there are some men who have made a small fortune on their prophetic takes. We've discussed my thoughts on, in my opinion, the charlatan Jonathan Cahn, but here we turn back to Tom Horn. The man who hawked his books anywhere he could, even along side the professed Christian's charlatan's greatest friend, The Sid Roth Show. 

In his book Apollyon Rising :2012, Tom speculated using the Mayan calendar. 

This could mean the end of the Mayan calendar—December 21, 2012—is the very day the two witnesses are killed by Apollo, as this Mayan ending-date is three and one-half days before Christmas. This would also indicate that the middle of the Great Tribulation period is December 21, 2012.

On the other hand, people who believe in a pretribulation Rapture would point out that the “catching away” of the saints did not happen in 2009, and therefore the Masonic date 2016 might better represent the “midst of the week” (see Daniel 9:27; Revelation 11–13) when Apollo (Antichrist) presents himself as God and sets up the “abomination” in the temple in Jerusalem. Under this scenario, the year 2012 would represent the beginning of the Great Tribulation period, three and one-half years before mid-2016.

That the year 2012 marks the beginning of the Great Tribulation not only could fit with Bible prophecy, as it is in the “midst of the week”—three and one-half years into the Great Tribulation period—when Antichrist enthrones himself as God in the temple, this would also conform well with the Masonic and Great Seal prophecies forecasting the return of the Great Architect and Hiram Abiff (Apollo/Osiris/Nimrod), who enters the finished temple as god, in this case, mid2016, which is three and one-half years following 2012.

In what could also be a related fact, June 21, 2016, is exactly three and one-half years after the Mayan ending-date of December 21, 2012, and June 21 marks the summer solstice in the Northern Hemisphere and the winter solstice in the Southern Hemisphere when a cusp line is created between Gemini and Cancer, signs that David Ovason referred to as having deep astrological significance to the founding and secret destiny of America.

It is also very important to recognize that, based on Daniel chapter 9 and related texts, scholars believe a period of not more than seventy years (a biblical generation) will elapse between the reformation of Israel as a nation and the return of Jesus Christ. When seventy years is added to 1948—the year Israel was formally recognized as an independent nation by the United Nations—it brings us through the year 2018. Does this mean that the year 2019—exactly seven years after 2012—would mark the year that Jesus Christ returns with the armies of heaven to establish His rule over earth?

Learn more at www.ApollyonRising2012 .com

-Excerpt - "Apollyon Rising 2012" by Tom Horn

Warning: the website seems to now be malware now

OK. That book, at least, regularly claims it's all speculation. But in The Wormwood Prophecy [2019] he claims to have been given a vision from God of the destructive asteroid hitting the earth. That is a far more serious issue. His vision would place the "rapture" (for those who hold to that) in 2025. This is that timeline:

Tom has Wormwood catastrophically hitting the earth around March 2029 (via a vision, remember). In any case he has the Tribulation starting October of 2025, and the "rapture" some time before that.

From Horn's book, The Messenger:

Assuming for the moment that I am right, and that the asteroid Apophis is biblical Wormwood and therefore 2029 represents a time around the middle of the Great Tribulation period when the trumpet judgments begin, Monday**, October 13, 2025 (April 13, 2029, minus three and a half years), would be the approximate start date of the seven years of Tribulation foreseen in Scripture** (see Matthew 24:21; Revelation 7:14; and Daniel 12:1).

Just as Sid Roth been exposed as a charlatan, and popular false prophet, Paul Begley, claimed his demonstrably false prophecies were given to him by God, so we must conclude that Tom Horn was a charlatan at best and a false prophet at worst.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

-2 Tim 2:2-4 

 

Now, I am one who believes we are approaching the culmination of the current age, but I claim no vison and I would not try to derive spiritual truth from things like the Mayan Calendar or the caves of Qumran. I have laid out possible (stressing the word "possible") scenarios for events remaining to be fulfilled, but as a member of The Body, and not a son of Abraham, the full revelation of those events will be for a restored, believing Israel some day.

My revelation ended with Paul's final revelation.

I am a minister, according to the dispensation of God, which is given me unto you, to fulfill the word of God

-Colossians 1:25

I realize this is a paraphrase, but The Living Bible sums up Paul's ministry well. While it does complete the thought regarding Paul "filling up" and "completion" of God's full revelation, it does summarize well Paul's calling in the Mystery for this Gentile age.

God has sent me to help his Church and to tell his secret plan to you Gentiles.